hey all, i'm new to tribe, and gardening with carnivores as well and i like what i see here. i have a few pitcher plants and four nepenthes that i've pretty much just been hoping for the best with so far. all the nepenthes are doing wonderfully, even the baby ones are flowering, however they didn't start flourishing until i was in a pinch and switched to tap water, which i was told i'm not supposed to use on these? so i guess my question is whether or not tap is really detrimental? as for the pitchers, they took a short stint of under-watering pretty hard and i just lost one today :( is there anything i can do to alleviate their stress aside from upping the humidity and keeping em wet now?
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Re: hi and a question
Thu, August 30, 2007 - 1:13 PMi've always heard that about tap water,
but personally i haven't found it to be the case...
my house is on well water though, and out of the city.
with the pitchers it's best to just snip off the dead ones and hope for the bst,
although sometimes when i really want to baby them, i set them up with extra light,
which always seems to perk them up.
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Re: hi and a question
Thu, August 30, 2007 - 2:27 PMIf your Nepenthes are flowering then they're doing very well indeed.
I wouldn't worry about the pitchers. It's the nature of the plant to slough off old pitchers and grow new ones. The time to worry is if you don't have new growth coming in.
As for tap water, it really does depend on where you are. All tap water will contain, to some degree, stuff that CPs don't like. However, in some cases, the degree is tolerable (or so I've heard). The thing to be wary of is if your water is depositing minerals in the soil. While there won't be any ill effects in the short term, long term buildup will poison your plant.
I've found that more light never hurts, and use lights to supplement the natural light my plants get. -
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Re: hi and a question
Thu, August 30, 2007 - 10:15 PMyep... thats why i'm worrying :/ i trimmed off all the crispy pitchers, but no new growth has emerged yet...i had em under t5 full spectrums, but the casing broke so i moved them under a regular flourescent... a couple were doing great under the white light, but now none of them look happy. i'm wary of moving them under a more intense lamp because of the traumatic state they're already in, and i didnt know how much light they can handle as healthy plants. you make a good point about the nutrient buildup though, i guess ill start by switching back to distilled water.
thanks for your help
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Re: hi and a question
Fri, August 31, 2007 - 10:36 AMhey all---
i have a nep that i got from the drugstore believe it or not. the pitchers are getting old so i guess i have to cut them off. theres been tons of leaf growth, but no new pitcher growth. i wonder if its more of a light issue vs. a water issuef to get more pitchers? i hooked up one of those britta water filters to my kitchen tap so they could get filtered/distilled water without too much fuss. one of these days i want to check out these folks---
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Re: hi and a question
Fri, August 31, 2007 - 12:02 PMRunning the water through a Britta probably can't hurt (at the very least, the charcoal-based filter should neutralize any chlorine in the water) but is still probably less than ideal.
CPs really want water containing less than 100 parts per million of dissolved solids. You should be able to get an analysis of your tap water from your water company. If the tap water is too hard, you can buy distilled water from the store, collect rainwater (just make sure it didn't run off the roof or anything, which might defeat the purpose), or get one of them magical reverse osmosis setups. They're expensive, but it makes sense if your water use exceeds more than a couple gallons a week.
On sick Neppies: not pitchering is often a symptom of not enough light. However, when conditions change, plants often stop growing for a little while, so all you may need to do is wait. I'd also check the bulbs you're using. If the light isn't in the right spectrum and temperature, such as a regular lightbulb like you'd use for your living room, its use for the plant is going to be limited.
There's tons of information (and confusion) out there about lumens and light temperature and spectrums and so forth. I avoid most of it by keeping my plants next to windows so they can get as much natural light as possible. I then point compact fluorescent daylight bulbs at them to supplement. Be carefull of non-flourescent grow lights. I tried some once and wound up cooking my poor Utricularia sandersonni. The flourescents are great because they won't shoot your electric bills through the roof and they don't give off much heat, but they have a limited range of effectiveness: about 12".
If your plants aren't right by a window, or if the light coming through the window is negligable, then I'd suggest getting a fixture for fluorescent tubes, and coating facing surfaces with mylar or some other reflective substance. Essentially, I'd suggest setting up a terrarium.
If there are any pitchers left: are you feeding them? CPs are always happier when well fed.
If there aren't pitchers left, you can resort to what growers of boring, non-carnivorous plants do, and fertilize. I've never done this for a Nepenthes, and I understand you need to be careful about fertilizing most CPs, but The Savage Garden has this to say on the subject (p276): "During the warmer months, apply twice monthly. In winter, once a month will suffice. Apply as a foliar feed, or also through the soil if plants are heavily watered at other times with pure water. Use a 50 percent solution of an orchid or epiphytic fertilizer. Avoid Miracid, which can stunt many Nepenthes."
Finally, here's a CP-oriented forum which has been a pretty good resource for me in the past: www.terraforums.com/forums/index.php
Hope all that helps.
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